Cookie consent - GDPR
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Tom Voltz
Today I don't think BD should get involved in this. Cookie consent is bloody complicated considering changes in laws and countries, etc. Better leave it to specialist plugins, imho.
Go Studio
This is the way
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Ken
Why are you voting for this ?
There is so many more important development stuff to do than an very complex GDPR. You dont understand what this all needs. His development have to be correct with law and he needs a constant development of this. He can't offer an element and than someone use it and get a law problem. So every GDPR Plugin needs to look for new law cases and need instant development updates.
- Look into the biggest GDPR Plugins how many options they all have. They have 5 or more pages full of settings.
- Also this type of plugin needs sooo much support.
This is a 100% external plugin you have to buy.
Vee Ridgley
Ken: Just because we vote doesn't mean BD have to do it you realise :-D
Rob de Wit
Ken: agreed. It’s more than a bottom bar with a cookie notice if you want to do it right. You must have options to fire tracking tags if a user says okay, a user must be able to accept / reject different tracking types. Better put time in making BD greater instead of the cookie nonsens imho.
robotdance
Rob de Wit: Yes, but BD has access to all external ressources that are used. So I think it is a bunch of work, but not so complicated.
Rob de Wit
robotdance: that’s not entirely true. Most people use Google Tag Managet for tagging like google analytics, conversion tracking etc. It’s way more complicated than it seems.
Plus I don’t do cookiebars at all. Totally useless and annoying for visitors. 😂
robotdance
Rob de Wit: yes, that’s right. But that would be more simple to implement than the element dependencies (I comment before).
Yes, I always try to implement complete cookieless / external ressources websites as well.
That’s why a implement also a option in robotdance to load local gsap files. It looks for the gsap / scrolltrigger url, snap that, copied locally and referenced it… also if breakdance updates (and uses a new version of gsap/scrolltrigger), it refreshes also the local file 😉.
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Joona
Ken: yes that is true. I using cookiebot on breakdance sites and works fine. I dont really think breakdance doesnt really need to focus on this.
Vee Ridgley
And the UK GDPR too :-)
Mauro Dalu
GDPR is a requirement in the EU and there are cookie laws elsewhere just as well. Since BD allows to integrate services like recaptcha and google tag manager through the header/footer JS in the settings, it would be great if it did it and abide to the cookie laws.
Most plugins do not offer a real solution unless you pay for a subscription and change the implementation of the JavaScript they provide.
While I agree there are other issue that should take priority over this, the same could be said of popups or forms. This is one of those things that I’d love to stop getting a separate plugin to address.
Hakira
nonesense to a page builder
We want this tool to be versatile and reliable to build pages/sites/themes
but a all in 1 solution for a full wordpress site IT/Tech side
David Fernández
I don't think this is necessary, I am Spanish and all websites must comply with this regulation. But it seems to me a feature that can be easily replaced with free plugins like "Complianz". It is not necessary to add it to a builder like Breakdance.
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Joona
I think it is better to just support better other gdpr plugins ex. Cookiebot. I had 1 issue with cookiebot, because all js loading with "defer".
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Ken
This is way to complicated to developed and too risky, this time they should use for other stuff. There are onetime cookie consent on codecanyon or free ones you can use if you dont want to pay every year
Dan
@Tom Voltz: What features do you use that require a cookie banner and are there perhaps alternative methods?
Vee Ridgley
Dan: Features are irrelevant, if your website appears in the UK or Europe the GDPR is law. And the law requires more than a cookie banner unfortunately.
Dan
Vee Ridgley: Isn't it the case that you don't need a cookie banner on a website if only technically necessary cookies are used? If you have other information on this, could you provide the sources? Thanks
Vee Ridgley
Dan: No that is not true. GDPR stands for General Data Protection Regulation, which means it is a law.
Here is the UK GDPR resource https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/.
Websites are required to have a UK GDPR or EU GDPR policy. Cookies are only a part of that policy. Just a cookie banner does not make a website GDPR compliant.
This is our GDPR Policy, which needs an update ideally but the UK GDPR is the same, except that the UK government can now amend it if they choose to. https://webdesignuk.agency/uk-gdpr-policy/
Dan
Vee Ridgley: Going back to your original answer; yes, by law a privacy policy is required depending on the country, but it doesn't necessarily need a cookie banner, which is why it is not necessary to upvote this feature.
Vee Ridgley
Dan: Technically very true but there needs to be something to show compliance with GDPR. The absence of a specific cookie bar is ok, as long as there is a bar/pop up etc. for a GDPR policy :-)
Dan
Vee Ridgley: Why not just link the "privacy notice page" in the footer?
Vee Ridgley
Dan: Because GDPR is more than that. It's fine if you don't believe me but I do know what I am talking about :-)
Dan
"Where personal data is collected and used, website operators must display a Consent Banner for cookies."
Personal data is mainly collected by additional tools or services and not by breakdance.
So if you decide to use extensions, you can also use appropriate extensions for Consent Banner.
I don't need it for the majority of websites. Hardly any client has the resources or know-how to understand or profitably use Google Analytics etc.
Vee Ridgley
Dan: That's entirely up to you, what the law is and what people do are 2 different things.
I am following the law, other people are not. I don't have to be coerced into not following it just because other people are not.
I will not ignore the law because someone on a roadmap request website tries to 'prove' I am wrong.
Just leave it at that now.
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